True20 2nd printing

[True20Chick]

Did ya'll see the info on the front page?

So a funny thing happened when we were taking stock at the beginning of the year. We discovered that we had less than 50 copies of the True20 core rulebook left in our warehouse! With all the new releases of the Fall and Winter and the excitement of the holiday season, the steady sales of True20 sneaked up on us and suddenly we had an important decision to make. Should we reprint the book as is or make some changes? We’ve decided to release a revised edition of the core rulebook in April. Let me be clear that is not a new edition. The plan is this: The rules content of the book will be unchanged. We will, however, be replacing the sample settings with the entire content of the True20 Companion. This will make the core rulebook a terrific toolkit and a great base for moving forward. The revised rulebook will also incorporate all the errata of both previous books. True20 Adventure Roleplaying, Revised Edition will be a softcover book that retails for only $29.95.

True20 revised, with sample settings dropped, and stuff from the Companion included.

[jaerdaph]

Sounds good, and makes sense! It will be nice to have the contents of both books plus the errata in one place.

Will those of us who purchased the PDF version of the Core Rulebook and the Companion get a free PDF update?

Also, are there any plans for the setting material?

[Kendermage]

Part of my True20 Wish for 2008 is being fulfilled! Whooot!

[Eirikir]

[Copied my comment from the original New post]


A Yay! and Argh! all at the same time...

On the Yay! side I'm definitely interested in the revised book, as I'm coming to really like the True20 system after publishing a big chunk of PDFs a few weeks back. Integrated errata is always a good thing!

On the Argh! side, well, I just bought these suckers a few weeks ago!

I'd definitely be interested in any information about an upgrade path for those with older versions of the PDF (free, of course, is always good, but I'm also willing to pay considering there was obvious effort needed to create the revised edition).

[Lord Lance]

I'd definitely be interested in any information about an upgrade path for those with older versions of the PDF

Me too!!! And, if i'm not too optimistic, I add a hope for a revised-not-only-patched edition, with some slight adjustments by Steve...

[Baduin]

I agree that a revised edition would be good. True20 has a good central idea, but seems to be done in a bit of hurry and is a bit unbalanced out of box. Compared to Mutants&Masterminds, it seems less polished, with different systems and feats not fitting together as tightly.

I tried to use it to run D&D adventures, and have about 70 pages of corrections and addition at that point.

I think that it would be useful to do for True20 what according to Wizards was done for D&D 4ed- to balance the underlying math. They certainly went for it in the big way, hiring a professional mathematician, specialist in the theory of games, but even a bit of balancing numbers can go a long way. Incidentally, in M&M, which was designed with this in mind, power level ensures that numbers stay in a reasonable proportion to one another.

As present,, some True20 feats are really unbalanced at high level - eg Smite. Similarly, supernatural powers could use a redesign.

[Pseudonym]

An upgrade would be nice, but I'll end up buying it anyway even though I own both the main book and companion in pdf and hardcover. Kind of like how I end up having to get the damn White albumn every time a new format comes along.

Shame it'll be softcover, though. I'd prefer a hardcover.

[Sablemage]

Good news.

I already have both, so I'm unlikely to buy the new version - yet, anyway. Experience teaches me I wear the books out every few years.

[bryan.mullins]

Since I'm working out of PDF versions of the bestiary, the companion, and the rule book, I'm excited about buying this revised reprint. $30 seems so little for that kind of thing. Now if only there were folks who had time to run a game with me.

>WBM

[Dahak]

I really wished this was going to be a hardcover, but I'll take what I can get considering the content.

I wonder if they're going to keep pagination from the rulebook (not companion) intact, so page references match up between rulebooks. I also hope they catch those stray references to the setting section. Compiled rulebooks are awesome, but they have the habit of being frankensteined together.

[Lord Lance]

Should be fantastic a little upgrade/expansion of the skills, merging with some/al present in the Expert Handbook. Traps, knowledge etc. are very useful for any player.

[jaerdaph]

Will those of us who purchased the PDF version of the Core Rulebook and the Companion get a free PDF update?

Actually, reconsidering this, I'd be willing to pay something for the updated PDF version because of the "value added" this new release will have. Perhaps a discount coupon of a % that reflects if you own the core rulebook PDF, the companion PDF or both?

[kroh]

has there been any sort of any indication about when the revised edition will come out?

On deployment and I need something new to read...

Regards,
Walt

[Rulandor]

I'm very glad that True20 is going to remain the game that it is, and I have three personal reasons for this:

1. It wiorks, and it works tremendously.

2. It remains a gateway for further use of all the 3e backgrounds that are going to become obsolete for D&D users.

The rules may have some quirks, but any roleplaying rules will always have quirks. You can redesign ad nauseam, and you will never have a quirk- and error-free rules system. Never in this universe.

[Jackal]

See True20Chick's first post. According to that, it should come out in April. Of course, I'm not sure if that's the print release and/or the pdf. Or, for that matter, if it will even be released as a pdf (I sure hope so).

I'm pretty excited about this one myself. I already own both the core book and the companion but I will happily pay full price for a revised core book that includes the companion and the errata for both. I'd also like to see the "skill groups" from the Expert Handbook make it in, but I know we can't have all our dreams.