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Postby Khantalas » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:20 am

Hello everyone! (HELLO KHAN!)

I've got a couple questions about True20. All are (or should be) simple, but I still want to ask them.

1) What should I look out for if I transfer Blue Rose arcana system to True20 (which is, with talent feats, Arcanum feat, untrained use of certain arcana, two powers per feat, etc.)? Would I have any difficulty assigning talents and key ability scores to powers from True20 products, such as True20 Handbook and Adept's Handbook?

2) What changes should I make to make the heroes feel more epic without breaking the level 20 limit? For example, bonus feats every third level or even every other level, increasing the number of level dependent ability score increase, giving more points to distribute among abilities at character creation and such.

3) Is there any third-party support for wuxia adventures and advanced elemental magic (because the Element Shaping powers of core rules are somewhat lackluster)?

4) How much and how well does Blood & Fist enhance martial arts of True20?

5) Is there a Purchase Difficulty table for the weapons list in Agents of Oblivion in case they are used in other campaigns?

6) How does a high level Adept manage to hit a high level Warrior, given the large difference between their combat bonuses?

7) Which third-party products you would recommend the most (I pretty much like all genres mixed in with a healthy dose of fantasy)?

I guess that is all for now. Will open new threads when I think of more.

Thanks in advance.
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Postby ValhallaGH » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:03 am

Welcome to the boards. I hope this helps.

1) There have been a few discussions about this on these forums. They may be useful to locate. But I don't do Blue Rose so I can't comment.

2) More epic? Lots of Minions, epic locations (lava, skyways, acid pits, etc), and high stakes. True 20 does epic from the get-go. Conviction, lots of feats, and clever descriptions can make first level heroes seem like the greatest champions of all time.

3) You may find the Land of the Crane stuff decent support. You may not. The original publishers are gone but the product line has been picked up by another company.

4) A metric ton and amazingly well. True20 was perfect for Chuck, his feat design improved so much when he started writing for it. Blood and Fists is the martial arts supplement for True20, not because it's the only one around but because it's the only one that ever needs to be written.

5) Not a clue.

6) Widen Power, multi-role, and attack focus can all work.

7) Reign of Discordia, Blood and Fists, Blood Throne, Blood Throne: Blight Elves, Legends of Excalibur. There are plenty of others that are good but those are my personal recommendations.
Liber Artefactorum is also pretty good.

And you don't need to open new threads for new questions. Most of us check threads a second time. ;)
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Postby Khantalas » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:15 am

Yeah, but often, people just don't bother (now see the irony as you actually have to check this thread a second time to see this comment :P).

And threads die. That's what they do. No need being a Thread Necromancer (I heard you need to be any Troll to get that class).
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Postby ValhallaGH » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:09 pm

Khantalas wrote:Yeah, but often, people just don't bother (now see the irony as you actually have to check this thread a second time to see this comment :P).

Around here, the ones you want to hear from generally do. :D
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Postby Khantalas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:14 am

I dunno, I'm a bit disappointed at Blood & Fists. I expected more feats and at least some focus on mystical martial arts. I didn't want the styles to just add to two feats and give a very small bonus to two skills at best.
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Postby committed hero » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:49 am

Kind of strange to ask a question you already had an answer to :lol:
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Postby Khantalas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:33 am

No, I bought the book after I asked that question. Not that it's a bad book, I just expected more.

Another question: Is True20 Cybernetics worth it?

Another another question: Which setting you recommend the most, mainly in terms of crunch but with an eye towards fluff (wuxia settings preferred)?
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Postby iwatt » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:17 am

Khantalas wrote:No, I bought the book after I asked that question. Not that it's a bad book, I just expected more.

Another question: Is True20 Cybernetics worth it?

Another another question: Which setting you recommend the most, mainly in terms of crunch but with an eye towards fluff (wuxia settings preferred)?


You're better off getting Interface Zero than the Cybernetics book. A kickass setting plus rules for VR plus the cybernetics and bio-mod rules.
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Postby Khantalas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:39 am

Is RPGObjects the only third party publish of True20? Cause it seems that they publish everything. :P
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Postby iwatt » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:11 am

Khantalas wrote:Is RPGObjects the only third party publish of True20? Cause it seems that they publish everything. :P


Check out Reality Deviants and Reality Blurs. They have some good stuff out there as well.
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Postby Khantalas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:47 am

More questions:

I decided to buy a setting book, to save both time and... well, time. Besides, most of the books out there are setting books.

I am equal fans of modern, post-apocalypse, cyberpunk, fantasy (though my real passions are romantic fantasy and wuxia fantasy, which I already have Blue Rose for and which doesn't seem to be supported by True20 supplements, respectively).

I'm currently looking at four settings: Tales of the Caliphate Nights, Interface Zero, Blood Throne and Nevermore (I would rather have Land of the Crane first, but I believe it is still in the works after being bought from a second company who wanted nothing to do with it).

Therefore, my questions are these:

1) How good are the settings introduced or elaborated on by these books?

2) How much crunch do the books have?

3) How good is the crunch in the books?

4) How much of the crunch is setting-specific?

5) How much of the crunch is genre-specific?

6) (For the Tales of the Caliphate Nights only) Does the book have examples of Elemental Finesse feats as I'm led to believe?

7) (For Interface Zero only) What are the cyberpunk rules introduced in the book?

Currently, I have enough funds to have one (OK, I have more, but I can't spare that much), so your answers are likely to determine which one I buy.
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Postby ValhallaGH » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:54 pm

Khantalas wrote:I dunno, I'm a bit disappointed at Blood & Fists. I expected more feats and at least some focus on mystical martial arts. I didn't want the styles to just add to two feats and give a very small bonus to two skills at best.

I apologize for that. I thought the system did a great job of using the existing rules to represent the various styles and the emphasis each style has.
I realize it's no comfort, but you're the first complaint I remember hearing about the True20 Blood & Fist.

Blood Throne combines Fantasy and Post-Apocalypse into one setting, with some really interesting mechanics and a lot of crunch. I really like it, and RDP does some great support for it. I'd recommend downloading the free adventure (located here) te get a taste of the setting.

Nevermore is really interesting, since it works for any setting, campaign style, or almost any mythology. I both like and dislike it. The Dream Conviction mechanics are great and the mind-bending ways the setting alters itself are fun to play with.

I haven't picked up either CN or IZ, so I don't want to comment much on either one. Though both have been well regarded by people who aren't me.

You may get some feedback from the writers themselves if you ask some of these questions over in the settings forum.
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Postby iwatt » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:21 pm

IZ is awesome. Lot's of fluff, lot's of crunch. And it seems that it will be receiving a lot of support. There is crunch for VR, Hacking, new roles, feats, skills. There is a goodly amount of stats for NPCs, which coupled to the Companion and the Bestiary (use monsters for VR security programs and file the serial numbers off ;) ) is very cool.

CN is pretty good, but it hasn't received much support lately, and it was developed before the Companion was out. Still it has good fluff, and some decent new crunch in the form of feats and powers, as well as an interesting shared storytelling mechanic. It does seem to have the finesse feast, but I haven't checked it in a while.

Blood & Fists is awesome IMO.

Bloodthrone is very intersting and well supported. Sadly both of the PbPs I've been in based on the setting have died out on me.
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Postby Father of Dragons » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 pm

Khantalas wrote:Is RPGObjects the only third party publish of True20? Cause it seems that they publish everything. :P

Look at the True20 Library thread for a mostly complete listing of products available for True20.
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Postby MdavidJ » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:17 pm

Khantalas wrote:Is RPGObjects the only third party publish of True20? Cause it seems that they publish everything. :P


Actually, my company, reality deviant publications, has 9 (about to be 11) true20 products.

I think that's more than anyone.

You might be getting confused because RPGobjects hosts my website and I sell my products there.
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